Question: What is not inerrant and was never intended to be taken literally?

Published August 7, 2011 by klipa

Answer: THE BIBLE

David Lose has written an excellent article for the religion section of the Huffingtion Post.  Two of my favorite quotes from the article are these:

“We tend to think of anything that is labeled “conservative” as being older and more traditional. Oddly enough, however, the doctrine of inerrancy that literalists aim to conserve is only about a century and a half old.”

AND

‎’Flattening the biblical witness to conform to a reductionist understanding of truth only limits the power of Scripture. As Karl Barth, arguably the twentieth century’s greatest theologian, once said, “I take the Bible too seriously to read it literally.” ‘

Please click on this link and read the article. It’s a good read and very enlightening.

:)

 

Twelve Points for Reform!

Published June 17, 2011 by klipa

Recently I came across the Twelve points for Reform that retired Episcopal Bishop John Shelby Spong has created if the Christian faith is to survive in our post-post modern world. The points make solid sense to me.  This is a different world than it was a mere 100 years ago. Science is constantly and consistently disproving much of what the Christian bible purports. To continue to cling to biblical stories as “truth” when they clearly have never been, only sheds an unflattering light on those who grapple to maintain their fierce grip on a literalistic interpretation of scripture. These people appear stubborn, ignorant, often arrogant…and if one looks very closely…afraid.

I can understand a fear like that. This current world threatens the collapse of their “biblical world view”. Everything could be flipped on its head and their faith could be shattered.  Some would even lose their careers.  They desire to “return” to yesteryear.  They bemoan the decline of morality, or the church.  But returning to yesteryear isn’t possible. It just isn’t. No matter how much you shake your fist or vote Republican. :)   So, what happens when one wakes up (pulls their head out of the sand, so to speak) and begins to read and explore and discover that perhaps they’ve been wrong about the bible?  Well…one can live through having their faith shattered. I did. Yes, it is difficult when it has been your entire identity.

*Tanget*…By the way…I  hate that a belief system should become someone’s identity. It was mine (and my parents before, and so on).  I, in turn, handed it down to my children.  I hate now that I did that.  It was indoctrination plain and simple and of course Yes! There is a bible verse to back that up! “Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it.” But tell me…why do we think that verse means that we need to give our children a religious inoculation?  Why do we indoctrinate our children? Why do we not give them simple guidelines to follow such as these  that don’t limit their minds and their intellects? We shouldn’t hand OUR identity to our children. We should allow them to live and explore and learn.  And ask questions. *end tangent*

The world has changed, and that is a fact. With science and technology continuing to explode (with no sign of decline) we are more connected globally to one another and to the plight of others and our planet.  And people are waking up.  The light is coming on.  We are, to borrow a Buddhist term, becoming “enlightened”.  We are learning that we better take care of our environment, endangered species, and each other, if we want the human race and the insects, plants, and animals (that all work harmoniously together to maintain homeostatic balance) to continue to exist on this planet (in harmony). One day the scale will tip too far and we will destroy…everything.

Religious dogma stands firmly in the way of the waking up for many people.  It stands firmly in the way of harmony.  It draws lines of demarcation between people…the believers and non-believers, the saved and the unsaved, the lost and the found.  That way of thinking is an ancient, barbaric and quite frankly, deleterious way of separating people.  It hurts, it maims, it kills. People, relationships, nations. We no longer live in medieval times, and we should be embracing change rather than railing against it. Because we MUST.

It’s a life and death matter, but not because of a “heaven or hell” situation, but because humanity is consuming itself from the inside out and religious bigotry and dogma provides the knife and fork.

Back to Bishop John Shelby Spong.  Here is a quote that elucidates his thoughts of Jesus. (You can read the whole article here):

“As Lutheran theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer once observed, I do not believe that Christianity can today be contained inside the traditional formulations of Christianity and must, therefore, transcend these boundaries, if it is to live in this generation. Bonhoeffer coined the phrase “Religionless Christianity” to describe what he meant. I seek in a similar way to look at Jesus outside the boundaries of religion. The result for me has been the recovery of a Jesus who commands my allegiance anew, a Jesus who calls me beyond my limits into a new humanity, beyond my prejudices into a new wholeness, beyond my religion into a new courage to live for others and to be all that I can be. It is this Jesus to whom my life is committed.

Below I have listed Spong’s Twelve Points for Reform for the Christian faith. As you can see, a divine Jesus is not something he believes in. Neither do I.  I can, however, follow the essence of who Jesus was.  Just as I can follow the teachings of Buddha or Ghandi, and Mother Theresa. I am inspired by all of them. Okay, on to the twelve points that Spong nailed to the internet!

1. Theism, as a way of defining God, is dead. So most theological God-talk is today meaningless. A new way to speak of God must be found.

2. Since God can no longer be conceived in theistic terms, it becomes nonsensical to seek to understand Jesus as the incarnation of the theistic deity. So the Christology of the ages is bankrupt.

3. The Biblical story of the perfect and finished creation from which human beings fell into sin is pre-Darwinian mythology and post-Darwinian nonsense.

4. The virgin birth, understood as literal biology, makes Christ’s divinity, as traditionally understood, impossible.

5. The miracle stories of the New Testament can no longer be interpreted in a post-Newtonian world as supernatural events performed by an incarnate deity.

6. The view of the cross as the sacrifice for the sins of the world is a barbarian idea based on primitive concepts of God and must be dismissed.

7. Resurrection is an action of God. Jesus was raised into the meaning of God. It therefore cannot be a physical resuscitation occurring inside human history.

8. The story of the Ascension assumed a three-tiered universe and is therefore not capable of being translated into the concepts of a post-Copernican space age.

9. There is no external, objective, revealed standard written in scripture or on tablets of stone that will govern our ethical behavior for all time.

10. Prayer cannot be a request made to a theistic deity to act in human history in a particular way.

11. The hope for life after death must be separated forever from the behavior control mentality of reward and punishment. The Church must abandon, therefore, its reliance on guilt as a motivator of behavior.

12. All human beings bear God’s image and must be respected for what each person is. Therefore, no external description of one’s being, whether based on race, ethnicity, gender or sexual orientation, can properly be used as the basis for either rejection or discrimination.

An article regarding Bishop Spong can be found here.  I particularly like this quote from the article about Spong: “He disturbs the status quo with a desire to reform the primitive Christian faith. His attempt to bring Christianity to maturity, although combated by traditionalists, is worthy of praise. This is one bishop who has won the respect of modern thinkers worldwide.”

He certainly has my respect.

When Believing and Knowing Get Confused With One Another…

Published June 15, 2011 by klipa

There is a problem with Fundamentalist Evangelical Christianity. Okay, there are many, but here is one that I’ve been thinking about lately:

Folks that adhere to Fundamentalist Evangelical Christianity say that they KNOW their beliefs are true….(is this because they are afraid of being thought un-spiritual or unfaithful if they express any doubt whatsoever?). Instead, I suggest they say that they BELIEVE their beliefs are true.

After all, they cannot KNOW them to be true because the tenets of their faith cannot be proven. I’m sure someone right now is wanting to throw Lee Strobel’s “The Case For Christ” at my head. To those who would like to do that, I offer this rebuttal from Jeffery J. Lowder.

Besides…is it faith if you KNOW something to be true? As blogger and author Matthew Paul Turner states: “I’m not sure that a faith made up of a list of non-negotiable ‘truths’ is actually faith at all.”  Turner has written two fantastic posts on this subject at his blog “Jesus Needs New PR”Part 1 is here.  Part 2 is here.

I can relate to the story that Turner tells…especially in Part 2.  He recieved an email with a bullet point list of “non-negotiables” that a Christian has to believe in order to be “saved”. I, too, was emailed a list like that (which I promptly deleted and didn’t respond to).  I was told by this same emailer that they questioned whether I had EVER been saved.  So let me set the record straight.  Of course I prayed the sinner’s prayer! At age 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 (at which point I was baptized making it official), and so on throughout my teens, until age 18.  I began praying the sinner’s prayer again at age 25, 26 (at which point I was baptized AGAIN, just to make sure!) and so on throughout my twenties and thirties. I know, I know…you only need to pray once and BAM that’s it. But seriously guys. You know how it is! You REALLY wanna make sure it sticks (especially when you’re being threatened with hell!).

I suppose it would have been much more palatable for my questioner to think that I’d never “accepted Jesus into my heart” than to think that I’d deconstructed my belief system to a point of…disbelief.

I believe that Christianity would be less offensive if Christians would admit that it’s merely a belief system rather than actual truth.  However, most (but thankfully, not all) Fundamentalist Christians don’t mind being offensive. I guess they feel it’s their right because they think they have the “truth.”

Sigh.

Let’s Revisit Hell Again…Just For the Fun Of It!!

Published April 19, 2011 by klipa

Again, my girl Crystal St.Marie Lewis comes through for me! Crystal lives in Washington, D.C. and is in seminary. She’s very eloquent about her beliefs and dis-beliefs. I visit her blog almost every day. She has some wonderful insights and I value what she has to say.  She helps me feel as if I’m not alone.  You see, I KNOW I’m not alone (though it often feels that way).  I have read so much from so many other folks that have gone through a theological deconstruction similar to what I went through…to know that I’m not alone.

SO, folks. Something is going on. And no, it’s not SATAN or END TIME deception .

 *TANGENT: If that is what you think (Satan and End Times), please educate yourself about these myths. It is appalling that people have very little knowledge about the historical origins of the religion (ie: Christianity) they claim to KNOW is TRUE.  Listen, you can say you have faith that it’s true, or you believe it to be true, but bottom line is this…you CANNOT say it is true because it has not been proven…not to mention all the holes that can be shot through it.  There are folks in other religions who believe just as strongly that what THEY believe is the truth. So who is right? (if you say you are it becomes laughable).  Why can’t we all say we don’t know for sure and it’s a big mystery…? That’s so much more palatable than insisting that you (and Christianity) has the only truth.  And by the way?  Using the bible to say the bible is true is circular and extremely faulty reasoning. Doesn’t cut it. Not with me and not with most everybody else.

No. What is going on is this:  We live in an era in which it is difficult to keep our heads buried in the proverbial sand.   We in the west have no excuse for allowing superstition and ignorance to rule our lives.  All it takes is some investigation. Perhaps reading a book by someone you might not agree with (hey, if you only read those you agree with then your mind grows smaller and smaller and I’m pretty sure it shrivels up like a teensy raisin).  ;)   Seriously, look for books outside of your typical fare.  Stretch yourself.  Gain some insight into the way others think and believe.  It’s a big world and there are many different thoughts about Christianity.  Think critically!!  I gave myself a theological education over the course of 3 years, and you can too.  I’ll give you a list of books to read, if you’d like.

Again, in my defense, there are MANY others who have questioned and are questioning EVERYTHING they were indoctrinated with. Crystal is just one of the many that I’ve come across.  She’s clarified her position on hell, and it’s a worthwhile read. I encourage you to read it.  Maybe it will set you free. I know it has set me free! :)

I’m sick, tired and READY to RANT!

Published March 1, 2011 by klipa

Well, hey there!  Been quite awhile since I’ve been here. Frankly, my dear…I’ve been tired. College has not been the culprit this time, although Biology keeps me hopping. It’s just that…well…I’m tired of fighting. I had all but given up on even trying to share the things that I’ve learned. But then Rob Bell came along and WHAM! Slammed that door wide open again.

Now, I’m still tired, mind you. But this time I’m SICK and TIRED. I’m just plain weary of folks yelling that the earth is flat when many others know that it just ain’t so (or at least suspect it ain’t so). But it’s always been the way of the church to condemn those who dare to think differently.  At any point in history, if anyone tried to suggest something that might rock the religious raft (yacht, more like it), then that person was harangued, or excommunicated, or burned at the stake. And Rob is getting his share of demonization…and his book isn’t even out yet!  The blogosphere is alive with the crucifying of Rob.  And John Piper simply says “Farewell, Rob Bell…”.  And, by the way…right here I want to say something I’ve been dying to say for a LONG, LONG time:

JOHN PIPER IS AN ASS.

Ahh…that felt good.

SO… Rob Bell comes along with a new book (due end of March). All of his books have been thought provoking, and I’m sure this won’t disappoint. I’m also sure that I won’t completely agree with all of Rob’s conclusions, because I no longer affirm the orthodox Christian faith (more on that in a bit)…but I’m glad that Rob is asking the questions that MANY have been thinking about for years…! And again, if Christians aren’t thinking about or asking these questions, then all I can say is….huh…wha…???  I don’t understand you.

Here is Rob’s vid for his new book “Love Wins“:

Now, that is refreshing.  I can’t abide the thought of Ghandi in hell, nor Anne Frank.  But as you can see, I’ve talked about that before.  Honestly, I really came here today to tell you what I don’t believe in anymore.  Rob was supposed to be a side note, but hey, what the hell (hahahahah!). SO…Here goes:

I no longer believe in…

* Jesus as the “Son of God” (we have really gotten the interpretation of that one wrong, I’m convinced)

* The in-errancy of scripture (or that it was divinely inspired or that is God’s word to man, whatever)

* The virgin birth (do you realize how many other reports of “virgin births’ there were in those days?? For anyone to be considered diety, it was quite common to point to a pious momma)

* ORIGINAL SIN (what?!? Like we already don’t have enough problems of our own; construct of the church, as many other doctrines were)

* Sin, as a word…(yeah, hey, people can do evil and it can be horrible, but sin is just a religious word for all that horrible stuff)

* Satan (again, people can do bad all by themselves…don’t need no body else to help them along)

* The rapture (puh-leeeze)

* The submission of women to men (worldwide oppression from the beginning of time, brought to you by your favorite religion, whatever that may be…)

* The literal creation story (Genesis was NOT meant to be read as a historical nor scientific account of the beginning of days)

* The literal interpretation of scripture in just about ANY way (the bible is a beautiful book in many ways, and I love the Jesus that I see reflected there…mostly…but I am convinced that his true message was twisted beyond belief…or should I say boiled down to simply belief…which makes no sense…shaking my head here)

* and…drum roll, please…the Patriarchal God of the bible (I believe there is a More, the Good…as Socrates called it, the force of love in the Universe…and sometimes the term “God” is the easiest way to say all that…but the wrathful God of the bible who commits divine child abuse?…uh, no.)

ummmm….let’s see, does that sum it up? Oh, let me also assure you that I didn’t stop believing these things just…because. I wasn’t interested in being a rebel. I wasn’t interested in losing my religion. But, when after reading enough solid, thorough research and enough scriptural textual criticism…and when I realized that many, many others have gone before me and came to the same conclusions…then the validity of what I once put my faith in didn’t seem very…valid…anymore.  So that’s where I am. I didn’t ask for this. Oh, sure…I could have kept my head in the sand and lived “happily” ever after.  But I’m not that kind of person. I want to KNOW. I want to discover, unearth, search for, seek out…and so I did. Sometimes I wish I hadn’t because the adjustment has been huge. However, how does one unlearn what one has learned?  When a discovery is made, how do you just shelve it and say “oh well…?”  I simply can’t.  It would be intellectual suicide.

Now, to end on a more positive note AND to make up for the ranting that I have done, I offer this:

What I DO believe in:

* Love, Love, Love

* Peace

* Kindness

* Compassion

We are ALL interconnected and intertwined. There is no Us vs Them. No Saved vs Lost. No need to proselytize. No need to make someone else conform to what we personally believe. When we realize that we are all one, all come from one…when we begin to recognize that…the peace that can change us from the inside out will be remarkable. When we reach out with kindness and compassion, with healing in our hands…when we touch the lives of those near and far with goodness…when we recognize the good in others…when we focus on that, rather than on converting them to our “side”…then we will truly be Love.

I believe that was Jesus’ message. His only message.

…(and yes, dang it, I realize I need to extend love to John Piper. That ass. Bless his heart)…

What about Anne Frank…?

Published December 6, 2010 by klipa

I found a recent blog post by Rachel Held Evans, author of Evolving In Monkey Town. The  book itself is a great read, by the way, for Christians with questions on their mind.  At one point I felt as if I could have written the book.  Now, I’ve moved  beyond the questions, and I feel like I’ve got answers that satisfy me, that finally make sense to me.

Back to Rachel’s blog post:  “Did Anne Frank Go To Hell?” hits the nail on the head.  Any thinking Christian, ANY THINKING CHRISTIAN, absolutely has to wrestle with questions like these.  I cannot imagine why anyone could turn a blind eye to a dilemma like this. Although, to be honest…for most of my life, I did. It was enough that I was “saved” from hell, and it was important for me to tell others that hell awaited them if they didn’t “accept” and “believe” in Jesus Christ (How do you measure belief anyhow? How silly to think that a simple belief holds our fate for all eternity in the palm of its hand).

The answer I have come to is this: Hell is of human construction (blog post by Crystal St. Marie Lewis;  there is much more where this comes from).  Hey, I am no theologian (only in my head…I don’t get paid for it!), and if I can dig up enough information on this, anybody can.  So. Hell. Does. Not. Exist. What a freakin’ relief, ya’ll!

Back to Rachel’s blog post. The comment section is very revealing, as well.  And one more thing:  I dare you to wrestle with this. I dare you. Double Dog Dare!

Seeing Red…

Published November 12, 2010 by klipa

Last night we went to a Veteran’s Day program at the elementary school that our 7 year old attends.  She was performing in a musical program with the entire second grade. The patriotism was running high, folks!  Oh, the excitement! Oh, the stars and stripes! Oh, the red, white and blue!

But by the end of the program I was seeing only red.

Why was I seeing red?

Because it was a very white program.

There were probably 75 second graders on the stage.  Perhaps a quarter of them were of color: African American and Asian.  The majority were white.   The program included singing interspersed with about 25 little second grade speakers who declared the glory of the great U.S. of A. Of the 25 or so speakers, only 2…TWO!!!!! were of color.  One precious little white second grader after another would joyfully grab the microphone and declare their memorized lines into it.  Finally, near the end of the program, I saw a little African American girl and a little Asian girl step up to the mic.

I nearly cried as one slow and glorious song spoke of how we were one nation with many races and religions.  Why couldn’t the choice of speakers reflect that? Why had the music teacher dropped the ball so badly? What an opportunity she had!

Later, at home, I was venting to my husband, who didn’t understand my anger.  Perhaps the children of color didn’t want to be in front of the mic, he suggested…maybe they had stage fright?  But I had watched them carefully during the program, thinking the same thing.  They were all vivacious singers, having the words and choreography down pat.  They looked like they were completely into performing and doing well. Every last one.  Even if, in spite of their enthusiasm, they had been reluctant to participate as a speaker…wouldn’t a little encouragement to do so have gone a long way?  Well, then…why couldn’t I just enjoy the thought behind the program, my husband asked, enjoy it in spite of what I saw?

Because injustice stays embedded in society because people

don’t have the eyes to see the obvious.

Or, if they see it, they overlook it.

They don’t see red.

Sometimes we have to see red.

Debunking…

Published November 1, 2010 by klipa

Gee, it’s amazing what you uncover when you bother to go looking for answers.  That is what these past few years have been about for me.  An insatiable curiosity for answers to all the things that I thought I knew, but felt wobbly on. I had questioned these things in my mind my entire life, but ended up telling myself I just needed to “have more faith”, because that is what I’d always been told.  What a convenient way to keep people in the dark. Just tell them they just need to “have more faith”.

So, here is another of those Things I Don’t Believe Anymore!  It was one of the first beliefs to go.  I still remember the night I finally was free from this belief.  My heart was soaring as I went to bed.  Finally! I didn’t have to worry about a trumpet blast awakening me!  Hah!  And yes, I agree with Barbara Rossing in this vid. It is spiritual abuse. It happened to me. I know that it’s happened to others. She has written a great book about this.

(I apologize in advance for the whole color scheme in this vid)

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